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>Kim Flint wrote: > Yet more proof that guitarists are the most arrogant people on earth.... Well, it's only 'cos we're BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE!!! :) > Could we please broaden our minds a little bit and stop trying to prove >that > one approach to music is oh so much more special than another? There's no > need to be threatened by someone who's a bit different from you. Learn >from > the differences, you might grow a little bit. Hey Kim, would you rather we went back to discussing hardware? :) Misha wrote: >Though I do not wish to attack anyone on their views of music and its >wide range of expressivity, I do not think a DJ is a musician. He may be >a craftsman and an artist, just as say, a non-musician sound engineer >can be, but I *do* believe you must play a musical instrument to be >considered a musician. (And, yes, a voice *is* a musical instrument).:) Now this is interesting. As a flautist, you may have a classical background. Now, would you say that an orchestral conductor is a musician? (S)He plays on instrument, but is largely seen as a musician. Dastardly- I mean Motley - wrote: > Creativity can be brought to almost any human endeaver, but that > doesn't make two activities equal in a more important sense. A jock can > pick the sample, playback rate, & what context he drops the sample into. > But a guitarist can do equivalent things AND choose tone, phrasing, & > attack; he can bend notes, add vibrato, & play harmonics. The number of > options available for expression affects the power and expressiveness of > the instrument or method. Yes, but a guitarst on his own is pretty imited. There aren't many solo electric guitar peices worth listening to. A DJ can tale the sounds of an orchestra, a funk band and NY art-scronk and come up with something huge-sounding. People playing musical instruments will always need to use other players to fill out the sound - drummers, bassists, thumb-pianists... which is almost what the DJ is doing. > A 7 note thumb piano is not as capable of > expressing human emotion as a tenor saxophone. A saxophone cannot sound as delicate and childlike as a thumb piano. > On another, somewhat related, note I have always thought that some > instruments are more expressive than others, and wondered why. Why are > there more sax, guitar, trumpet or violin solos than other instruments? > The best answer I've come up with so far seems to be the point I was > making above about the options. The number of ways an instruments can > shape a note is directly related to it's expressive power. There is a > reason sax is more popular than French horn; or guitar more popular than > banjo. I believe great players can touch us more deeply with these > instruments. No, I think a lot of it is to do with volume. The banjo was far morepopula than guitar well into the 40s. Cellos are loud but too deep-voiced to solo well over two violin sections. There are many solos for obscure instruments in classical music. Besides, as expressive instruments go the church organ is dire - note on, note off, nothing else. Now, tell me that Bach's Toccata & Fugue in Dmin is not expressive.... Michael /-------------------------------------------------------------------\ |Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes | Tel:0141 330 5979 | Fax: 0141 330 4907 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |Bioelectronics, Rankine Bldg, Glasgow University, Glasgow, G12 8QQ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://www.elec.gla.ac.uk/groups/bio/Electrokinetics/main.html | \-------------------------------------------------------------------/