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Thanks Laurie, I also notice that some male friends were able to listen and enjoy much louder, higher frequencies then I can deal with. This point also goes along with my last post on this topic. As for your other point about articulation, I think your on to it... smiles, Corynne At 02:05 PM 3/8/98 -0800, you wrote: >Sarajane, thanks for writing! You've touched on something I've >experienced, >but did not realize had been scientifically documented. (S's post is copied at >end...) > >Invariably, xy's I've played with have been able to handle louder high >frequency volumes onstage than I, some by a considerable margin. (Maybe that's >one reason why I'm into bass %^). This doesn't mean I don't like it >totally >intense and balls to the wall! Plus, overall I think my musical tastes >are >usually as out there as anybody's. So it may well be that, as you >suggest >Sarajane, in some situations volume can have more to do with discomfort >than >musical content. Non-musicians may not necessarily be able to articulate the >difference. > >However, some people are just more into mainstream stuff than others (re >the >bedraggled "Anti-Spouse Forces Theorem" thread). Developing a taste for more >fringe and eclectic music is a not only a function of personality, but also of >experience and exposure. For instance, recently when I listened to what >had >been a favorite cd for the first time in about 15 years - I was really >surprised how slick and unimaginative it sounded now. (I got off on *that*?) > Guess it's mostly because I've been listening to and playing more experimental >stuff in the interim. That's a good sign! > >The point is, if one's significant other/friend/partner isn't a musician >or >audiophile, maybe their lack of musical "sophistication" lies in part because >they haven't had the advantage or pleasure of learning to listen in the >ways >that we as musicians do. If one of the reasons they are with us is because of >our musical natures, maybe we can more systematically (and patiently!) >help >them develop that part of themselves as well. > >laurie > > >Sarajane's post: >Dear Loopers > The recent "my girlfriend" thread reminds me of the old folk song >"momma don't allow no guitar playing round here". But so far, no >one has mentioned the fact that there are actual physical differences >in HOW men and women perceive sound....for instance, female ears >are able to hear in higher ranges than most males. This effect is >especially >pronounced at times of hormonal surges, and many women find those >high (screechy) notes physically uncomfortable. The biological reasons >(and I'm not making this up; I've read the medical/scientific studies on this) >behind this seem to be pointing towards millions of years of conditioning >females to hear those babies (high pitched and loud in their frequencies) >and it causes a certain biological trigger (make it stop!). This is especially >true of REPETITIVE (ie loops, anyone?) loud, high pitched sound. And while >women, especially when in MOM mode, have a certain amount of tolerance >built up for repetition (Mom? Mom? Mom? Can I...Mom?)they may not always >choose to seek it out recreationally.... > And did anyone see the article in the newspaper this week about the >inner ear differences (structureally speaking) between lesbian inner ears >and heterosexual female inner ears? Seems the lesbian ears are more >like men's ears......perhaps because of hormonal differences while still >in the womb.... > However, NO sweeping generalities can be made when talking about >sensory awareness---I'm female, and I LOVE many kinds of loop music, >even loud, even odd pitches....I lived with a bagpiper once, who played > in the house on bad weather days. and it was great! And 17 years >of listening to Bryan's music has not bored me---though there are the >occasional high notes that drive me from the room.... > Sarajane Helm > > > > > > >