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>>The question is: without MIDI clicks, how can a loop be synced into music >>with live drums? I'm looking for new APPROACHES to this problem >>here...anyone? Even drummer who are used to playing with some sort of click track can have problems hearing a loop clearly enough in a performance situation. We've found it helpful for the drummer to heavily eq the loop to insure that some sonic reference point comes through loud and clear. If you were to listen to the monitor by itself, after this eq, it usually sounds undesirable, but for practical sync purposes it works pretty well. It's amazing what a parametric eq can do when deployed in the mid-range frequencies. Travis Hartnett