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I just discovered an amazing looping application on the Boss GT-5, which has only 1800ms of delay. BUT, it has a delay spill-over function such that if you write the same delay patch to several presets then change the other non-delay perameters, when you select the different patches with a loop running, the held delay contents carry over to run thru whatever new fx are set up the different presets (still on Hold, even tho the control pedal--set to activate hold--now is OFF; hit it twice to fade away the loop, in any of the presets). Each one can be completely different except in the delay settings--i just chose max delay and set up the hold thing--including what kind of basic voice you'll have in that preset: acoustic, ring mod, synth, pitch-shifted, whatever. So, with a bank of five such presets, you can create a loop with any of the five different voices, and send that loop to five different post-processing configurations. I've got auto wah set up after the delay in each, so I have five different frequency sweeps to choose to send my loop thru, with the expression pedal set to master level. Sending thru a synth or ring mod voice, with slowly shifting auto wah, on which the frequency rate is being swept by the internal triangle wave, is amazing, plus I've got 4 other fx chains I can send it thru, and on each one there's a different guitar voice I can play over it, let alone the other outputs on my three-output guitar. This technique has kept the same little synth figure entertaining thru the entire course of writing this post...it's always changing as the wah brings things in and out. I've only just discovered this, so I'm sure there are many variations...there's also a sound-on-sound function that will probably work the same way. whew! this is a serious box! dpc Anybody know if there's a GT-5 user group/web-ftp site?