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Hi. This is the qmail-send program at pop01.netaddress.usa.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <stick@psn.net>: Connected to 207.211.58.15 but greeting failed. I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Received: (qmail 10925 invoked by uid 0); 11 Sep 1997 20:55:40 -0000 Received: from Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com by netaddress.usa.net via mail-rover (2.0) on Thu Sep 11 14:55:40 1997 Status: U Received: from ferret (mail@ferret.slip.net [207.171.193.6]) by imap1.asu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.2 (bhk 10/09/96)) with SMTP id BAA26353 for <signals@imap1.asu.edu>; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:43:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from lists by ferret with local (Exim 1.62 #4) id 0x94qI-00044R-00; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:43:14 -0700 X-Sender: kflint@pop.slip.net Message-Id: <v03102800b03d3efe2c76@[207.171.198.62]> In-Reply-To: <m0x8tZ8-000RXAC@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:53:19 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> Subject: Re: Echoplexs have been found, thanks Resent-Message-ID: <"DfNqJ.A.hbD.A36F0"@ferret> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> archive/latest/465 Precedence: list Resent-Sender: SmartList <lists@slip.net> Resent-To: signals@IMAP1.ASU.EDU Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:43:14 -0700 At 4:45 PM +0000 9/10/97, Phil Diem wrote: >Kim Flint replied: > >>One idea is to simply call Oberheim and ask where you can find a dealer >>with stock. 510-635-9633. They haven't been producing them fast enough to >>meet demand, so there seems to be varying amounts of backorders at any >>given dealer. They might be able to help you find a dealer who will be >>getting them sooner than later, or already has them. The other reason >this >>is a good idea is it keeps Gibson motivated to keep making them. > >>kim > >Thanks for the suggestion Kim. Problem is I've already tried this >approach, which ultimately resulted in my meeting with the District Sales >Manager, Jerry Lambert a couple of weeks back. >He says that they're way behind in production and wasn't very hopeful or >helpfull in regards to instant gratification. Well, perhaps we need to reverse the motivation for calling Gibson. The main priority ought to be showing them that there is demand for the echoplex and encouraging them to keep making echoplexes and similar products. (i.e. not pulling a lexicon, to coin a phrase...;-) The secondary motivation would then be to find one for your self. The more the gibson sales people are hearing from customers about it, the more they will pressure the production people to get their act together. It doesn't take a lot really, because the vast majority of customers never contact manufacturers. The few who do help them define what the market is looking for. I think the main reason gibson is producing echoplexes at all these days is because of the interest shown by people on this list. And they have recently been putting some effort into increasing the production, so it does work. Getting through to a DSM is certainly a good start. A guy like that is thinking Les Pauls most of the time. Getting him to think about looping products for the other part can make a big difference. So I guess you're off to a good start there, keep it up! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com