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Pete, as for the humor in looping,maybe content of the loop will work. we found a line from a movie, Doom Generation, in which a young man is explaining " I feel like a gerbal smothering in Richard Gere's butthole". This was looped repeatatively and a lot of noise and drums placed behind in. I for one found the segment extremely funny. When played live, it was hard to judge the audiences reation. A >From lists@slip.net Thu Sep 18 16:21:58 1997 >Received: from lists by ferret with local (Exim 1.62 #4) > id 0xBptM-00041Y-00; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:21:48 -0700 >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:18:44 -0400 (EDT) >From: Pete Koniuto <pkoniuto@bu.edu> >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: music >In-Reply-To: <9708188746.AA874623023@mail.amsinc.com> >Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.970918183354.141094C-100000@acs5.bu.edu> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Resent-Message-ID: <"TAWI6D.A.kdD.kbbI0"@ferret> >Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> archive/latest/578 >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: SmartList <lists@slip.net> >Resent-To: alicecrsh@hotmail.com >Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:21:48 -0700 > > >Ed Chang wrote: > >> Anyway, my theory is that 'alien/possibly great' sounds/concepts can >> sound bad even to the genius-composer at the time of creation because it >> doesn't fit comfortably in his/her familiar sound-world... > >Exactly, Ed. It's that uncharted territory thing. I >sometimes hear something i've just worked on, be it a loop >or something else (but usually a loop, since other >pieces and parts happen more slowly, a little more >methodically, or are perhaps more premeditated), and >i'll think, no, there isn't enough high end in this >to make it sound all nice and balanced. It sounds dull, >lo-fi, swampy. It isn't until later that i realize, >i've never heard something so damn swampy--this is stinky >swampy, and it's scaring me, not boring me. IT'S HAVING >IMPACT. > >Often a good clue early on about what is effective, what >has impact musically is when i find myself either >laughing or proverbially scared shitless. Sometimes both. >But if i can immediately sense the humor in a piece, or the >terror, these are probably reflexes to something that >doesn't quite sit easily with that sound-world with which >i'm familiar and all to comfortable. > >Unfortunately, i KNOW i'm much better at the scarey stuff. >At least that's a reaction others often have to my >material, especially my looping. > >Can anyone suggest how to invoke more humor in the looping >process? Either the kind of humor that brings with it >tears; or the kind that pulls out that Cheshire grin to >the listener's lips, like yeah, i get it. > >Torn can do it. During the Polytown sessions, he would >pull schitt out that had everyone in the control room >laughing themselves silly. And he knew it. And i think >he may have even been aiming for that. Or maybe he was >just trying to crack himself up. > >Suggestions on how to bring humor (even the nervous kind) >into the loop? > > >Pete Koniuto > >----------------- >Music Library >Boston University >617-353-3705 >pkoniuto@bu.edu >----------------- > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com