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Hello all -- Some thoughts I'd like to make here... As I posted previously a couple of days ago, in reviewing the information I provided for Oberheim, I detected some serious inaccuracies and inconsistencies in the information I provided them for trying to detect the anomaly in my unit. I don't know how much this contributed to the delay I recieved in getting my unit back, and at this point I doubt I ever will. What I am doing is choosing to return the other check, which was originally sent to Gibson (and subsequently sent back to me), back to Oberheim in the interest of trying to make reparations for the confusion which has ensued and help realize the expenses incurred in their efforts to help me. If anyone at Oberheim feels any other steps should be taken, I'll happily speak to them in private or public about it, and I certainly apologize for any contributions to the current confusion which I may have made. Since at least some of the confusion with my situation could very likely have stemmed from my lack of clarity, it seems to me at this point that it would be unfair to use my particular case as a litmus test for Oberheim's current state of organization and customer service (though it must be admitted that strictly from an intention point of view, Tom and Pat were definitely on the right track). I do get the impression that the company is presently in very good hands. The noise anomaly has been tracked down and explained. I lack the necessary technical skills or expertise to do so, but it will shortly be made available; owing to the fact I've never heard anyone else notice it or complain about it, it's fair to say it's minor enough to not warrant a problem for anyone else. If nothing else, I must thank Oberheim for being able to eliminate the possibility of its being a circuitry problem as a result of their swapping all of the internal electronics. As one of the very few people who has thus far been priveleged enough to use the upgrade, I can report that it's a very welcome addition to the Echoplex. The whole thing seems to run a little bit more smoothly, and some of the minor bugs which had been annoying in the past are happily absent from the current software. Anyone who has any interest in looping (including anybody on this list) owes it to themselves to investigate the Echoplex, especially in its newer, sleeker format. One thing that's been driven home to me over the last week is the fact that what we do, and the companies which help produce the tools which make what we do possible to a large extent, all exists on a significantly smaller scale than what one might initially presume. This isn't big-business corporate commerce -- it's fringe technology and creativity, being fostered by both musicians and manufacturers who often are not that far away from being unable to continue their efforts in this realm. Whether we like it or not, I've come to the conclusion that those of us on this list (and, in a more general sense, those of us within this musical and creative community, both on-line and elsewhere) have a certain responsibilityto and for one another. Without customer support, the products can't continue to be made or distributed; without company support, consumers and professionals will find themselves frightened at the prospect of getting into the game. In an on-line forum, these relationships tend to be magnified and intensified far beyond where they might go in the real world, and this has the potential for abuse. I've been guilty of that in the recent past, and I apologize for that. Other people have as well, and they have in general admitted as such. This is a pivotal time for Oberheim -- they're under new management, and preparing to ship a version of a new product which customers have been anxiously awaiting for at least two years. I certainly hope that my comments have not swayed anyone from considering investigation into the Echoplex, and I will reiterate that the unit is in a class all its own in terms of the depth and breadth of what it can do. Take what's said in this forum for what it's worth, but ultimately, track down one of the units and see for yourself what it can do. My thanks for Oberheim for their efforts in the past and present, and my wishes for ongoing success and longevity. --Andre