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The recent talk of samplers, and the hope that others are thinking along the same lines brings up a few questions. How many of us spend most of our time fiddling with bits of gear at home, trying to improve the quality of our music ? Our main instruments ( guitars, keys, sticks and the like ) don't pose too many problems when it comes to knowing what sound we're looking for ( whether we get it is another matter.. ) and we're fairly familiar with the gear required. But say you want to record some drum loops ? Not just your crappy drum machine but the kind of loops that sound realistic ( DJ's Shadow, Spooky, Krush, Torns's last CD all have great drum sounds - where'd they get 'em ?) I once sampled ( using the 2.5 sec one shot sampler on my Digitech Tsr24 ) the drum fade out on the first Black Sabbath album ( 'Behind the wall of Sleep' I think ) and then recorded both that and a loop from the guitar onto tape. The outcome was infinitely more pleasing than most things I'd done using an Alesis D4 drum module. The 'real' drum sounds made my efforts sound almost, well, 'real'. So, anyone want to discuss the gear required to bring the rest of our music into the real world ? Adat ? Da88 ? , Samplers ?, Computers ?, Emagic,Cubase ? All the best Andrew