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Thanks for the blunt and honest comment (geek/gear etc.)!!!! I have felt the same way but was too chicken to speak up :) !!! This weeks top ten list , in no particular order: Bill Frisell - where in the world Tal Farlow - This is tal farlow Trey Gunn - The third Star ( feut. the wonderful mr Pat Mastelotto on drums) Peter Gabriel - us , so , live etc... John Scofield - Pick hits Shakti - with John Mclaughlin Jim Hall - conciertio Eurythmix - best of King Crimson - Starless and Bible Black , thrak Bill Frisell and Elvis Costelo - deep dead blue As you can see this is a fairly regular list compared to the stuff some of u listed(most of which I have never heard off!).This is probably coz I live in Norway and underground trends are never picked up on by media/cdstores. Sorry if the list was boring...:) My approach to playing is that I play two different instruments: 1. "electronic guitar" : when I wear this hat it is of no relevance to me if the sounds coming out of my speaker resembles guitar or not. I treat my guitar like a tonegenerator and think in a textural/mood mode. This is where looping is interesting to me ; I can take up more space ,if desired , and give a more organic alternative to keyboard-instruments ( no offence !) It also frees me up to shift focus on the music and zero in on different things ( look ma! I`m playing wah with the hihat!) while the loop takes care of the harmonic demands of the song. Obviously , this has its limitations. 2. Electric guitar : When I`m in these pants I just get a cable and stick it into my amp , and guitar , but this approach (while very valuable) is of no interest to you guys ,so I`ll shut up now. Anyway , I have taken up this space because I feel this is stuff that is more valuable to us as MUSICIANS , as well as guitarists. I hope we can get more discussions on this subject , and thank you Kim , for pionting out that the emperor is almost completely nude ( and not very sexy)......chew on that , guys!! Your looper in Norway , Thomas Woehni