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I love the idea of a Loopers CD! Anything I can do to help - please let me know . I work in a studio in LA, and also have a friend who has a mastering facility in WA state. He does CD replicating too. I can get us a great deal. On another note...the studio I work in got an Alesis "Wedge" for free from them. I spent a few hours futsing with it and was very impressed. The interface is very easy to use and it sounded pretty good for the buck (@$500.00?). It also has a max delay time of 5.4 seconds (nonexpandable I'm sure) so naturally I thought of us! it has the usual compliments of verbs & chorus's. If you can only afford one or two boxes, acouple of these would be very powerful. One would be great for processing a loop machine. Lastly, I'm due to get my Echoplex back from Oberhiem this week. Pat Murphy was very helpful in finding out what the status of my repair was and following thru on it.. I feel a little guilty about my last slightly angry post, but I sometimes you gotta vent. I'm looking forward to trying the new software (especially the lower gate threshold!). Seems like Oberhiem is trying to win over the people who have gotten bad impressions. A good strategy. Thats all for now.... Eric R. Fischer