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>Jan Gabarek...he has a release with David Torn btw and another one with Frisell. Hey Patrick , good to see someone mentioning Jan Garbarek. I say this coz he is definately worth checkin out! He directly influenced David Torn , and probably many of the other guitarists he played with , wich include (and here`s the point of all this): John Abercrombie , Ralph Towner , Bill Frisell (2 discs) , David Torn , Terje Rypdal. I say , he must be the John Mayall of ECM!!!?! The disc with Torn is called "It`S ok to listen to the great voice" , and has some great clean,compressed,volumepedal guitar. Very different from his solo-albums but you still hear his voice. The discs with Frisell are called "wayfarer"(my favourite) and "off the beaten path" ????+sorry but I dont remember the exact title of the cd , and I don`t wanna know. I hope this can be of some interest to all your "continental arses!" , anyway , just thought I`d contribute something.And Garbarek I can find in any medium/large cd store all over Norway , but all the music you talk of.......no way! "Looping??? get the fuck outta here!!!!!" squarepusher....hmm no , but we have the latest Prodigy...... now I`m depressed........ yours , Thomas W