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I'm glad Paolo brought up Nels Cline, one of my favorite musicians and a master of the EH 16 second delay. I don't know if I'd call him a looper, he uses the delay mostly like Frisell used to (on say, Power Tools), to timestretch or reverse a phrase while it's decaying, to build clouds of noise for endings and transitions, and to get big throbbing Sonic Youth-like dissonances with one guitar in standard tuning. So now I'm going to babble about his music. Here are some records he's on besides the new Mike Watt. Mike Watt-Ballhog or Tugboat? Julius Arthur Hemphill & The JAH Band-Georgia Blue Nels Cline Trio- Silencer, Ground, Chest The Vinny Golia Quintet-Nation of Laws, Against the Grain, Razor Live from the Knitting Factory (I forget which volume) Nels Cline & Thurston Moore-Pillow Wands, In-Store The Geraldine Fibbers-Butch Nels Cline-Angelica also albums by Alex Cline, Brad Dutz, Quartet Music. others Ground and Pillow Wands are my current favorites. The composition and interplay on Ground are mindblowing in their depth and diversity, while Pillow Wands has some of the most beautiful guitar textures I've ever heard. The Vinny Golia albums give Nels tons of space to stretch out in what a smart-ass rock writer would call "post-jazz." Nels' thing (as near as I understand it) is to approach the Sonic Youth big beautiful dissonant blob aesthetic in an incredibly musically literate way at the same time he's attempting a sweet Frisell/Scofield/Metheny thing in a punk way. Like if Greg Ginn, Jim Hall, and Lee Ranaldo were all the same person... Anyway, check him out. -- Jeff Schwartz jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~jeffs/main.html