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>BTW, I read the specs on that philips CD-RW jobbie, damn that looks cool! >Who needs DAT anymore? I use mine to record what I do on stage :-) Those RW media are a lot more expensive and the machines about doubble, too. So calculate how many CDRs you record that are not worth saving and how many CDRs you can trash until its worth working with CD-RW... Matthias