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Based on the positive reactions which Door X got earlier today on this list, I dug up my old copy and listened to it again, and it was *much* better than I remembered (although I still prefer his more experimental work). Thanks for the admonishments which got me to listen to it again. I also noticed a couple of listings for it at www.gemm.com, a clearinghouse for various new and used CD dealers. They also had the oop CMP albums, at ridiculously high prices. There is a web site on Torn at http://ott-outreach.engin.umich.edu/torn/, although it doesn't appear to have been updated lately. -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@interagp.com cdeupree@erinet.com Computers are useless; they can only give you answers -- Pablo Picasso