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I use the Ground Control MIDI foot controller and this same problem is the reason i have used my Jamman the last three years instead of the Echoplex. I have been waiting for this upgrade in hopes that i will finnally be able to jump from Loop 5 to Loop 2 (for example) with one push of my Ground Control. I can do this with the Jamman from Lexicon (a company not known for it's MIDI know-how). Using those 2 loopers and other effects,wah-wah,etc. have my feet already doing loop-de-loops, so i don't have enough floor space for the Echoplex footpedal, even if it did go directly to any loop. I'm waiting to see if the upgrade will make that happen........... erich kory At 06:36 PM 1/24/98 -0800, you wrote: >At 3:10 AM -0500 1/21/98, ENAT21213 wrote: >>Thanks for the quick reply Kim. >> The echoplex sounds way more complex than my jamman.Im thinking of >>investing in one?The only problem I have is this midi controller/echoplex >>pedalboard access loop 1 thru 9 tap thing. >> What I do is midi merge two ada mc1 midi pedal controllers together >.This >>gives me access to all 19 of jammans loop functions without having to >bank up >>and down.The ada mc1 has 10 buttons on the face of one pedalboard.So >with the >>press of a button I can get around with ease (essential for me,especially >>live).I would love it if the echoplex would react in a similar way. > >The Echoplex (the technology we at Aurisis develop that runs the echoplex >is called Loop, btw) can react that way, but I suspect that your current >pedals either won't do it or won't do it in a satisfactory way. You might >want to consider upgrading to a more capable pedal, or get the pedal >designed for the echoplex. Again, I'm not familiar with the ADA pedal, but >I believe it is a very simple one. You can't expect it to do >everything.... > >>I realize >>the echoplex does not accept midi program changes messages.You mentioned >that >>this feature will be added in a future echoplex.Any idea when this >version >>will be avalible? > >What I meant is we may add program change support to Loop for the purposes >of changing programs, which is the purpose of that midi command. So you >would be able to change from one setup to another by sending a program >change command, in the same way you change patches on a multi-effect or a >synth with program change messages. > >Using program change messages for executing functions on the echoplex is >problematic, for one thing because it would interfere with us using it for >the intended purpose defined in the midi standard of changing programs. >Another reason is that a midi program change message simply contains less >information than note and continuous control messages. We use all of the >information in the later types to make the midi interface more elegant and >musically intuitive, while allowing you to control more things with fewer >buttons. Changing the interface to work with program change messages makes >it less intuitive and harder to use, and some functions won't be available >at all. And that's opposed to our general design philosophy for Loop. All >of our efforts are focused on designing an interface that is musically >useful and intuitive. We wouldn't want to release something that gives >anyone a lesser experience with Loop. We'll continue to investigate this >possibility, but I'm not very positive about it. Being compatible with >every ancient midi pedal is not a task I relish! > >As far as when any future versions of Loop might be available, we don't >discuss that. Since we just released a major version a few months ago, you >might imagine that it won't be very soon, but we are always working on new >developments. > > >>Sounds like the midi note or continuous controller message for changing >>loops in echoplex may work for me?Not shure though,is anyone out there >using a >>similar set up to mine with the echoplex?If so mabey you can let me know >how >>this midi note/continouous controler thing works with your midi pedal.I >really >>need to be able to jump from one function to the next with minimal >tapping. > >I have a digitech PMC-10 pedal set up to do this, and it works very well. >I >got the pedal for $100. > >> Any Oberheim dealers in my area?I live in Myrtle Beach S.C. >,anywhere in >>S.C.,N.C. or GA. would work.I would love to try one out.I'd probably >order one >>right now if I knew I could access most functions(especially loops 1 >thru 9) >>with the press of one button. > >You have to ask Oberheim about that..... > >kim > > >>Thanks for your help and patience, >>Brian McKenzie >> >> >>In a message dated 98-01-20 06:39:06 EST, you write: >> >><< And last is switching with midi. Unlike the JamMan, the echoplex is >more >> like a sampler in this respect. It uses Midi Notes or Continuous >Controller >> messages for changing loops. If you have the velocity parameter turned >on, >> the Echoplex will use the velocity info in the note on message (or the >> value of the controller) to set the volume of the loop you switch to. >You >> jump directly to the loop you want by pressing it's associated >> Note/controller number. (you can set which notes/controllers it uses for >> the loops.) >> > > >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > >