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Jeff's scheme is solid, if you're into sewing. Also, there are commercially available cable bundlers (shielded and unshielded) that can be of use, as well as cheap garden hose (get the large diameter black rubber stuff if possible--cut the ends off, thread your cables through--if they're too thick to thread through, slit the hose longitudinally, stuff yer cables in, seal it with black tape, and hey presto! instant snake.) I would however suggest the following: Don't bundle signal cables and power cables in one snake if you can avoid it at all. In fact, don't run signal and power cables next to each other under any circumstance where it can be avoided--cross one over the other at 90 degrees if you must and keep the gaffer tape handy. By the way, MIDI Solutions will reportedly be shipping the R8 in February--it's a 1U rack-mounted midi-controlled giz with eight relays that open and close eight 1/4" jacks. Thus, you can control stuff that uses a 1/4" phone-plug footswitch via midi. (http://www.midisolutions.com). That might be a solution to rack spaghetti for some of us. (I want one for my Mesa/Boogie V-Twin, and there'll still be two jacks left over to run, like, the fog machine and the disco ball...) Scott Bullerwell tanelorn@dimensional.com Boulder, Colorado, USA