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I agree with Mark's comments about being able to manually change parameters, but the one thing that keeps bringing me back to the RDS-8000 & EH 16sec (or at least putting them in the chain before the plex & jamman) is the ability to change the pitch of your loops after they've been trapped... also the lowered resolution of EH stuff is so cool- i wish the Plex had a switch on it so U could sample at 4 bits....