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using shortwave bites: i love this approach too - how weird - just yesterday i started hunting up a power supply for this am/tv/shortwave radio i have - so i could splice stuff into my loops. sometimes i sample stuff from am radio - i just input to the sample (old mirage) and load away, without hearing what i've tuned in - it's always a riot what ends up getting caught. i have some old vinyl record by Holger Czukay - anyone remember CAN , the seminal experimental german group?? he used a lot of live Ham/shortwave radio on his records/live shows. andre" andre@monmouth.com -------