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>Please UNSUBSCRIBE me from the mailing list. I'll probably join you again >in >the future. > >Many Thanks OK, I don't say this very often (or ever), but seems like this is a good time, since I'm now completely sick of spending so much time helping people with this. Subscribing and Unsubscribing to this mailing list, as with every other mailing list on the entire Internet, is *AUTOMATED ON A SERVER*. That means that there is a computer where you send the request, and it handles it automatically. There are *NO HUMANS* involved in this process. If you post a message like this to the list, there is no human (or at least no willing human) who will then go and send the commands to the server for you. You have to do it all by yourself! There is a page on the Looper's Delight website that explains how to do this: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/list/LoopList.html Some other things to note: - When emailing commands to the server, don't strike up a conversation. The computer does not care what you have to say. Remember, there are NO HUMANS involved. The computer will not understand your witty banter, and will send you the automatically generated help file. - There is only one way to spell the word "subscribe" and only one way to spell "unsubscribe." Never in my life could I have imagined how many ways people could come up with to misspell these words. If the email has only one word in it, is it really so hard to check that you've spelled it right? The computer will not understand creative reinterpretations of the spelling of these words and will send you the help file. - Turn your sig file off. The computer will not be impressed by your nifty quotes and ascii art, and will send you the help file if you leave the sig file on. - If you are using hotmail or one of the other free email services that automatically attach sig file advertisements, you're screwed. You'll have to mail me and ask for help, and wait until I have time to get around to it. You get what you pay for. - Some newer email programs default to send email as HTML code. TURN THIS OPTION OFF. Not only does it screw up the server, most people who do not use these mail programs will be profoundly irritated by you. Just because morons at Netscape and Microsoft thought this was a good idea does not mean you should stoop to their level. - Don't send subscribe requests to the list address. There is a separate address for this. Nobody actually cares if you are subscribing or unsubscribing. - If you get an error from the server from your request mail, don't resend the exact same thing to the server 600 times. Expecting different results from the exact same actions is one definition of insanity. It's probably also an indicator of pure, unadulterated stupidity. Try to be above that. - this is really not complicated. Just follow the directions, and you will be fine! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com