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Mark Sottilaro wrote: I too searched the world for a ring modulator about 3 years ago and came up almost blank. I ended up building the kit version, as I'm pretty good with electronics componants. Don't waste you time. It was so noisy it was unusable. However, I came across the Korg AX-30. I LOVE IT! It's got a beautiful ring moduator (very quiet), as well as great "fuzz face/big muff" style distortion.... SNIP... I've got a Boss GX-700 and it has a pretty decent ring modulator. It has a smart feature which tracks your frequency as well as the capability to leave it at a fixed frequency as well. I can be blended in any combo of dry / wet dynamically using continuous control. Pretty cool for that sneaky weird note you just have to have in that solo... The GX-700 also has a pretty full grab bag of all their distortions and preamp emulations, a fixed / pedal / auto wah module, as well as speaker simulators and eq. It has a programmable series or parallel loop which can be inserted in any order in the patch. It has a modulation section of which the ring mod is a part. It has a separate chorus module as well as delay, pan - vibrato, and reverb. This box ran me $350.00 used on the net. It's been a great addition to my rack. Regarding looping... I haven't yet tried long delays with high regen values only because I have a LXP15, a JamMan, and a Vortex. I'll get around to checking that part out someday! -Miko