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Several people here have mentioned the Philips CDR870. I just picked one up and love it--good bye DAT! Audio CDR discs, though, aren't cheap--yesterday I saw TDK's at Tower records for nine bucks apiece (plus tax!). I have found a source for recordable discs which are high quality, 74 minutes, and a matte gold printable blank surface. Problem: minimum order in the hundreds. My question: anybody here who would be interested in these discs at maybe $3.75 each, lots of 20, plus about $10 shipping? If I can get a half-dozen responses, I'll seriously think about the order. Even the best street price I've seen is almost double this amount, and they certainly aren't printable.... P.S. These are NOT for computer data--I know those discs are dirt cheap. For the Philips CDR870 and other direct-audio CD recorders, the discs must say "compact disc digital audio recordable". And in case it's not clear, these are NOT "rewritable" discs. David Myers