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just because there's a minute remaining, afore i go: paolo said: >After the show, I couldn't help but mess around with one of the (acoustic) >ouds hanging on the wall. The traditional oud design is an interesting >take >on fretless instrument design; instead of having a longer neck like a >guitar >where notes on the higher regions of the neck would have extremely short >sustain, the neck is kept short so that the only notes available are the >ones that can have some decent sustain (that is, the area of the >fingerboard >within 6-8 inches of the oud's "nut"). It's as if you took a fretless >acoustic guitar and expanded the body so that it swallows up half the neck >so that the non-sustaining notes higher up on the neck are gone and you >are >left with the ones with decent sustain. actually, the scale-length of the instrument is more about the subtleties of micro-tonal playing (& embellishments/adornments) and a limited note-range than it is about sustain. in fact, mr. najarian -luthier extraordinaire, in anaheim hills- installed some foam rubber under the lower strings of my electric oud in order to dampen them & come closer to the traditional armenian/lebanese "ideal". also: the oud that was hanging on the wall @ mccabe's was pretty lousy (& *certainly not worth what they were asking for it!*) & far from any "correct" tuning. joe buck said: >I dunno. The holy grail of tone in electric large bowled string >instruments (saz,oud,laouto,etc) has yet to match the complexity of the >acoustic ones. I think this partially because few people seem to care, >or treat them as guitars. probably, "few people seem to care". me, *i* prefer to play the acoustic: am totally in love w/the instrument. but, it's quite difficult to amplify/loop inna "live" setting (& *so* hard to travel with)! that being said: i bought viken najarian's electric oud -last thursday- precisely because he seems to be one of the premier acoustic oud- luthiers in the usa, and 'cause he actually *designed* an electric instrument, rather than putting a crappy (and/or 'top-deadening') pickup on a nice oud. right up, dt