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Just got back in from seeing Billy Cobham and Randy Brecker in concert, the gig was great, and the band came back on for an encore and Billy Cobham had a drum machine strapped on like a guitar, it was like those keyboards you strap on, anyway he started playing and then looping! I glanced down at his feet and there was an Oberheim controller on the floor, perhaps he was using an echoplex? He did a short segment and then the band played the final song, he said they were trying something new, perhaps he's got into looping? Babs