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matthew hahn wrote: >I want to know what people are doing and why. That's all. Lay it down. Since I'm unfortunately only engaged such current lowly pursuits as DJing music such as ambient, jungle, so called "intelligent techno" and anything else dished into the marketing mix if you will, I will keep my ignorant mouth shut. I hope I just received on the wrong day.< Well, what's so low about *DJing*? That's one barrier that a lot of so-called *musicians* are going to have to get over. One thing that I've learned in the last coupler years (being a sophisticated *musi* myself ;-) ) is that a good DJ is completely equivalent to a good musician. A good DJ is more than someone with a cool record collection (I'm talking about good DJ's here - not the dudes who play CD's at frat parties). You've got to be able to feel the mood of the crowd and ride them out. DJ's and *sampling artists* are also becoming integrated into the normal band thing. There are currently all sorts of bands where this is already the case. In fact, there is a thriving scene in Berlin, Germany (where I currently live) for this sort of stuff right now. Funny that no one wants to be able to sell us the equipment we want, because there's definitely a hunger for it here (Anybody home up at Oberheim, Deutschland, nein?). Although, I saw a looper from Vestax (DJ equipment) yesterday - does Oberheim really take this market seriously - I doubt that anybody other than Mr. Flint knows that it exists ... :-( And seeing as you asked - I'll tell you what I'm currently up to here ... <self indulgence mode on>. I'm playing with ROPE and we'll have our first CD released on Geist Records (Alec Empire's new label) world-wide on March 23. This baby's been in the can for more than a year now, so it pains me to think this is supposed to be representative of our current music - but that's inevitable "lag" effect. The best track on there is "Fellini" (yes, looping!) so give it as listen as a DJ or music admirer - tell me what you think. Personally, I'm a drummer/ percussionist who includes drum machines in my repertoire. Although I come from a jazz/heavy metal background ;-) , I really dig recording drummy loops and mixing them down DJ-style (OK, I can't scratch, but ...). I also like to play live, but that's an entirely different scenario - I play da drums (loud) in that case ... Being a DJ, you should definitely check out a new film called "Modulations" about the whole DJ/ D'nB/ Jungle dance scene. I posted a while back about it, so I won't rant any further ... Aha, i see self-indulgence mode never got turned off ... oops **GIG TIP** Any of you who'll be at the SXSW in Austin, Texas (why do I always think NRA when I think of Texas?) will be able to see ROPE live, headlining the Kitty-Yo label nite - ask me for details if you're interested. Rob in Bear-lin