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Re: OT re:CDR870/audio CDR discs



i was offered one for $200.00 US but it would be coming from the
netherlands,,,(fully assembled and functional..give me a day to check old
E-mail,,,and i'll post the source

later
james





At 10:59 PM 3/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks to Bret for these tips from some 10 days back--finally got some 
>time
>free & picked up a couple "normal" CDRs for testing.  I'll be 
>durned--works
>like a charm.  Of course you must record the entire disc & finalize it
>before the machine is shut down, but still, at a price as low as 99 cents
>for 74 minutes of digital recording, can this be beat?  Anyone out there
>shopping for a DAT machine, think this over.  How much do you pay for a 74
>min. DAT tape?  And can you jump to tracks instantaneously?  Suffered from
>tape dropout?  The CDR870 is cheaper than pretty much *any* DAT machine I
>know of, and--for me--being able to play the disc on any CD player is a 
>BIG
>plus.
>
>Only problem: SCMS!  Of course want to put my freshly-recorded CDR into my
>CD deck and make copies.  Does anyone know of a good source for a SCMS
>stripper?  In NYC, Manny's didn't know what I was talking about and Sam 
>Ash
>Pro Audio just put me on hold for about an hour.  I know there are kits
>around for under $100, but my soldering hand is exhausted & I've heard a
>ready-to-go stripper might be $200....
>
>I told my girlfriend I was looking for a scum stripper and she thought it
>had something to do with my bathroom.  More like she was *hoping* it had
>something to do with it....
>
>>Loopsters,
>>David Myers asked where to find a good price on Audio CDr blanks for
>>use with the Phillips 870 CD recorder.
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>>I can't help you with the Audio CDr blanks, but you may not have heard
>>that there is a trick you can use in order to record with the Phillips
>>870 using data CDr blanks (the cheap ones).
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>>I learned about this via the Roland VS-880 mailing list.  Some of the
>>folks there have the Phillips 870 and have successfully used this trick.
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>>The difference in the Audio CDr blank and the data CDr blanks is that
>>the Audio discs have information written to them that tells the 870
>>(or similar Pioneer consumer CD recorders PD04, PD05) that the disc is
>>a Consumer disc (and tariffs were paid).  Without that data, it will
>>not allow you to enter record mode.
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>>I don't have a CD recorder, so what I tell you now is based on my
>>reading others accounts, and leveraged from a similar trick my kids
>>use to play Japanese Playstation CD roms in an American Playstation.
>>
>>You will need an Audio CD blank of the same capacity (time) as the
>>Data CD blank you want to record to.
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>>1.  Put the Consumer blank into the recorder.
>>2.  It will read the identification information, and will indicate you
>>can record.
>>3.  Reach under the CD tray door and slide the tray open (manually, do
>>not use the tray open button).
>>4.  Remove the Consumer CD blank
>>5.  Place the Data CD blank on the tray
>>6.  Manually close the tray completely
>>7.  Record
>>8.  Do not remove the CD until you finalize it, or it will not play.
>>You cannot remove it, and reinsert it later to record.
>>
>>Again, this is from others accounts, I cannot tell you the nuances of
>>this trick.  Others say it is easy, works, and has not harmed their
>>recorders.  Proceed at your own risk.
>>
>>The only caveat I have heard regarding this procedure has to do with
>>calibration.  When a blank disk is inserted into a stand alone CD
>>recorder, the recorder performs a calibration on the blank.  This
>>calibration consists of writing and reading a reserved area of the
>>blank in order to determine the optimal laser intensity for that exact
>>disc.  This is done because there is unit to unit and manufacturer to
>>manufacturer variations in the CD blanks' dye layer.  The cal insure
>>the holes burned in the dye layer will be of the correct size (depth?)
>>in order to be read later without error.  Since this trick requires
>>you swap discs AFTER the calibration, there is some risk the burn will
>>not be optimized to the proper level for the second (actual record)
>>disc.  So far, anecdotal information says this has not been a problem.
>>
>>Again, proceed at your own risk.
>>See
>>http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?83
>>for stereophiles article on 'CD Recorder's Dirty Little Secret'.
>>
>>bret
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