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Mjh, Since joining this mailing list, I've noticed that a lot of people loop in many different ways. As far as I'm concerned, I like the pc, and the DAW - digital audio workstation. This is really cool because you can physically do things to music...move sounds, with a mouse, to where you want them. There are a lot of multitrack DAW's out there...I use SAW+ by innovative quality software, and the Digital Audio Labs Card D +, which allows I/O analog with simultaneous play and record. The DAW makes things very flexible as far as recording. You can change the sound on each track...like make one track go backwards while the rest go forward....and also make each go at a different speed...so if a sample is out of the key you want, you can slow down/speed up until it is on. Lastly, everything is done as a .wav file...so almost everything is compatible or convert-able. If you are a musician and want to perform as a musician on a studio work...the DAW probably isn't for you....it's a little bit more of a pain to set up like that than something like an ADAT. Furthermore, you can only do one track at a time with mine...I think there is an update that allows for multiple track record....but you would need extra sound cards. If you approach your studio work more as an artist than a musician...then the pc based DAW is where it's at. Geez, I sound like a salesman....sorry, I just dig it!!!! If you're looking for samples...there a butloads of drum loop samples on the net....the pisser is that you've got to cover your butt legally if you plan to sell it, and there isn't usually any information about the origin of the loop....I'm stuck there right now...after downloading a bunch of loops, cutting them up and using them in songs...I've found that I have to dig up where they came from originally so I can get licensing to use them...otherwise I could get sued. The people that run those sites haven't been very forthcoming with any info...they've just said...sorry can't help. If you want info on DAW's or sample sites....just type in DAW or 'digital audio workstation' into a search engine...since it's a pc-based thing...they all have sites on the internet. If you're looking for sites with samples, 'breakbeat' seems to be a word that spews plentiful sites out of a search engine. Hope I've helped!!!! brown25 ---------- > From: matthew hahn <esker@mail.utexas.edu> > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: brown25, sample sites, Loop/Sample Info > Date: Saturday, March 21, 1998 11:01 PM > > brown25 > Thank you very much for the sites, I will be checking them out shortly. > Other attempts at finding sampling/looping info are not very forthcoming. > Book stores seem to forgo them, the few books which can be ordered seem > somewhat questionable. > The technical language though simple for the users, subscribers long-time > to Electronic Musician, etc. those have followed the sonic evolvement from > Alleatory, Musique Concrete, etc., the beginnings of cheaper digital > sampling with the Emu Emulator, will know the code phrase jargon. I'm > still looking for more! Haven't gone to the retail sampler stores yet. > One of the reasons for my forray into sound is a webpage for a > communications technology class at U.T. at Austin. It is sampling/looping > based and I hope to learn and put on quite a bit of interesting information > upon it. Anyone with other sites/knowledge, I would interested to hear > from you. What's it all about to you? > I'm also interested in this because I often like music that with sampling > and looped and I usually notice it and wonder, damn how did they do it? > It's fascinating. The closest I get is DJing it, ambient/techno/jungle. > Whomever can help me with some input pertinent to these looping/sampling > inquiries, big thanks! > Mjh >