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Yes we definitely look a little overprocessed to the average guitar folk out there. I've found that for most, the manuals and endless parameters overwhelm. No matter how overwhelmed they are though, you're right... They're impressed! Just a reality check though. How many times have you spent an entire evening tweaking dsp's or even just tone and distortion settings, only to have a bad case of studio sweat n' jitters as well as ear fatigue, and not really *played* anything? (Well, I did move my fingers! And that counts! 8->) With a day job, sometimes it's really easy to be lazy and actually just play your instrument! That said, I just spent an enjoyable evening (the night after the ProjecKt2 show) tweaking an Infinite Reverb setting on my LXP15, attaching an envelope follower to control the threshold to drop slightly on louder notes and allow loop input. At the end of the evening I was grooving to a new patch which requires no foot pedals for input... Then send the loop off to Vortexland and we're really swimmin'! Yours, -Miko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Phenomenon Author: "Woehni" <hovard@online.no> at INTERNET Date: 3/24/98 12:43 AM Hi , I have noticed a strange phenomenon that occurs after I have showed my Jamman/Vortex setup to fellow guitarists: They all LOVE it!! They go: "WOW! COOL WHERE D`YA GET THAT?". But the strange thing is: none of them ever makes any attempt to locate a looping device or check out the technology behind it. Its like they see me looping - think it`s cool- and classify me as an "experimental guitarist" - forget about the whole thing - and goes back to practicing double-stops and hammer-ons. Are we doing something that most people finds as a nice , but scary and dangerous activity? Yours , Thomas