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Hey Thomas... If you can swing the MPX-1, I'm sure you'll be more than happy. They're ~$1000. Lots of toys in there! A lot of other DSP's allow you to roll off the high end now. My Boss GX-700 does it and that was around $350. There is the Lexicon MPX-G2 which is still in development, but it has 20 secs mono and 10 stereo delay as well as a bunch of guitar specific preamp / distorto stuff. There's been mention of adding more real time loop specific command sets to that long delay line as well. Stay tuned! Watch for those posts from Greg Hogan and Bob Sellon about this unit. (Please guys, stop and type something about this, when it goes into Beta.) *I'm Not affiliated with Lexicon or anyone else! (Although I'd like to be)* All the best -Miko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Lexicon PCM 80 Author: "Hogan; Greg (Exchange)" <ghogan@lexicon.com> at INTERNET Date: 3/23/98 12:08 PM Thomas W wrote: "I`ve been drooling over the PCM 80 , coz of the diffusion knob that (alledgedly) takes away the top end of the delay , thus enabling me to become "tape echo boy" in a digital domain. > Are these beuties rare and hard to find? > What should I expect to pay if I ever find one? > Are there any other (posibly cheaper) machines that has a similar > function that alters the > delays high end and not the original signal??? > Would it look good above my Jammam / Latex alliance in my rack? and > thereby form > a trinity , touched by the grace of god??? Or should I get a job > flippin`burgers at McD`s???" > Thanks for the interest Thomas. We recently started shipping the PCM81 which is a replacement product for the PCM80. The PCM81 will pass AES/EBU words of up to 24 bits where the PCM80 will pass SPDIF signals of 20 bits for reverb or 18 bits for delays. The PCM80 uses PCMCIA ROM cards that allow you to load new algorithm cards(dual FX, pitch FX and vocal fix cards). The PCM81 has all of the algorithms that were made available for the PCM80 resident internally. The PCM81 also has a PCMCIA card that could be used for upgrading though Ii am not aware of any current plans to do so. It is entirely possible that the release of the PCM81 will introduce more used PCM80s into the market. Our MPX 1 allows you to roll off the signal in a number of different ways. It has SPDIF in and out and may be a cheaper alternative for you. Either the PCM80, PCM81 or the MPX 1 will look smashing in the same rack as your JAMMAN:>) Our Norwegian distributor, Siv. Ing Benum, should be able to steer you to the closest retailer who can demonstrate these products for you. Their phone number is 22 139 900. Best regards, Greg Hogan Lexicon Customer Service Phone +781-280-0372 FAX +781-280-0499