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Subject: Re: ProjeKct 2 @ Palookaville, Santa Cruz, CA... Author: "Matt McCabe" <mattm@bi-tech.com> at INTERNET Date: 3/24/98 10:07 AM Miko wrote: ProjecKt 2 w/Fripp, Belew and Gunn was pretty awesome friday night! Well...looks like I missed meeting Miko and Laurie at P2 concert in SC. Alas! A belated howdy to you!!! Sorry we missed you! Is anyone else disturbed by Fripp's use of cheesy guitar synth sounds? I mean, if *insert studdly keyboardist name here* played the same piano, organ, and marimba sounds that Fripp used people would say "That sounds sucks!" And it does!!! What is so fascinating about a guitarist playing crappy keyboard sounds on a guitar? Okay....obviously this is a personal pet peeve. I just don't get it. I've often thought that sometimes was a problem as well. It does work quite well for the soudscaping, where it functions in a very layered built up fashion. If you're talking about his marimba and xylophone cheesy jazz vamps, well... Maybe it's Fripp just being his hilarious self! He's funnier than I gave him credit for. (after reading his numerous posts to Elephant Talk.) Although it was gratifying hearing the much loved Fripp fuzz tone, I left wondering how they could do this gig night after night. With 3 extremely talented and gifted musicians on stage I excepted more than just hallow wanking. I kept waiting for the next level. Perhaps I'm too much of an idealist. People on ET have been raving about "the new vocabulary" P2 is exploring. I heard nothing new. I heard drum sounds straight from ToaPP (Three of a Perfect Pair's "Industry"), soundscaping from Fripp's many recent solo discs, and Gunn's noodling ala his solo discs.... Well, maybe it's not exactly a NEW vocabulary, but It's a chance to LOOK for the new, while having a little fun. This tour offered these three persons the opportunity to improvise *together*. Sometimes magic happens, sometimes dreck. But the opportunity* doesn't often present itself. Having the option to go back to the drawing board and spend a year writing and recording a release, then touring to support it... Locked into a fairly scripted progession of songs (possibly with great moments of chance and risk) OR Taking a spring break and cruising out on a month long tour *Jamming with a couple friends to recharge and make "any noise you felt like" playing on a given night... I think I'd like the opportunity to get out there and wank a little. At least there's the chance it could be sublime. Geezzz....what's my problem????? Maybe *you've* been noodling a little too much. No worry. Write a few songs. Keep writing until your sick of writing. Write some more. At some point you'll be wishing you could do a little goofy noodling. I think in my own looping I've been searching and struggling for form and structure in my looping compositions. I'm tired of improvised guitar-drones that go nowhere, are lifeless and dead, and brandish the "Recorded live with no overdubs/Completely improvised" tag. BOOORRRRING. See above. Maybe wank a little harder on the old guitbox. Drones don't necessarily have to drone. They can clank and bang as well. Get out the Whammy pedal! I was hoping for enlightenment from the masters. Some clue as to the road less traveled. The masters are taking a much needed break from repeating "DINO-SOAR!!!" Matt P.S. That being say, the P2 song directly after the intermission was *very* cool, erie, and sublime. How in the heck was Gunn triggering those vocal samples? IMO, this song hinted at what this group of musicians are capable of. I was pretty moved by that one as well. I had a nice seat to sit back and close my eyes, and was transported! I agree with much of what you say Matt. Sure the pounded on and on for a number of tunes. The more I write, the more I realize the importance of leaving chance and risk in the formula, to allow stuff to evolve and grow. How you add structure around the chance, or add looseness to a strict composition is a dilemma we modern electroids all have to deal with. Yours, Miko B.