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Thomas W. wrote: >Im shure all of you have some ideas how to get crappy sounds from crappy gear- >lets hear it!< I like to use the worst resolution on my old Roland SDE1000 delay and apply this to looped rhythms and beats. I set the delay time using a definite note relationship with respect to the tempo (e.g. a phase shift of 1/8, 3/8, or 5/8 notes) and pan the resulting shifted beats opposite to each other. In combination with gratuitous usage of the x2 switch on the Roland (the "instant dub" button), I can effect radically changing beats with window-pane-rumblin' and chalkboard-scratchin' pitch shifts. It's a gas. I also like the way that the delayed beat sounds so hollow and forlorn. Bye, Rob