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heh, heh. Andre, you have far more energy for this than I do! If you are happy with what you have, great! But I think you largely missed my point, which is: The possiblity for incredible advances in the expressiveness and musicality electronic instruments could be here, if not for the unfortunate (and well documented by other people) limitations of midi. I spent a number of years in R&D labs working on early prototypes of such instruments, and I find it frustrating that they can't be enjoyed by the rest of the world. I hope that someday this will change, but that day will not come through acceptance of the status quo. If you want to learn some more about some midi alternatives and possible future musical networking technologies try these: the ZIPI home page (actually the "what happened to zipi home page"): http://cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ZIPI/ ZIPI docs published in the winter 1994 computer music journal: ftp://mitpress.mit.edu/pub/Computer-Music-Journal/Texts/ZIPI/ especially the one describing midi's limitations: ftp://mitpress.mit.edu/pub/Computer-Music-Journal/Texts/ZIPI/midi-comparison.t ZIPI's Music Parameter Description Language: http://cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ZIPI/mpdl.html cnmat's current efforts with Open Sound Control: http://cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/ and for kicks, microsoft's DirectMusic: http://www.microsoft.com/directx/pavilion/future/dmusic.htm kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-752-9284 Mpact System Engineering kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research http://www.chromatic.com