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At 01:29 PM 4/21/98 -0400, Mark Kata wrote: >Several members of Loopers-Delight use two or more loopers to create >music. > >I've tried using two loopers and an AB box to switch from one to the >other. >However, as the density of the loops increases, it becomes more difficult >for me to remember which looper I added a specific musical phrase. > >What techniques can you suggest for this? And what techniques are >especially useful when using multiple loopers? I usually use different loopers for different purposes, so it's pretty clear which one is doing what. for example, I've been experimenting a bit with this setup: I have 2 echoplexes in my guitar rack for stereo loops, which pretty much act like a single unit. Another echoplex is on the aux send of a mixer that is primarily devoted to percussion, returning to one of the mixer inputs. Other inputs of the mixer are devoted to the multiple outs of drum machines. the sequences from the drum machine are loops too, and by taking advantage of the four outs I effectively have five different percussion loops on the mixer inputs. (another input is for live percussion playing through drum triggers, which I don't do much of since I'm still a pretty lousy percussionist.) By controlling the aux mix I can grab different snippets of percussion in the echoplex and muck around with things from there. I'll probably add another echoplex to the mixer output for capturing the whole thing, so that will be another loop. I usually set up the drum sequences so that the outputs are consistent, ie out 1 = snare, out 2 = bass drums, out 3 = hihats, etc, so that each channel has it's own purpose. It can still get kinda complicated though. So how to remember what is where? Here are some ideas I have, which might help: - be consistent about what you put into different loopers, so it's easier to remember what went where. Maybe one is for rhythmic things and another is for droney ambient things, or divide up by instrument like I am. If you do that it makes sense to use labels too. - use a mixer so that you can briefly adjust a fader knob, hear what happens and remind you. Or you could just subtly adjust output volumes on one device or another and see if it's the one you want. - use level meters so that you can "see" what's in each one. Some loop devices will have a level LED of some sort to indicate loop audio. (like the feedback LED on the echoplex). In a dense loop that might just be on all the time, so it may or may not help. - use a headphone monitor, with a different mix control than the amplified sound. (like dj's do) - just wing it, and pretend that the result was intentional. hope this helps, I'd like to hear any other ideas people have. Or any ideas of how a future loop device might make this sort of thing easier. Everybody seems to want multiple loop capability in next generation loopers, but that's the simple part. Figuring out a useful interface to control that is the real challenge. kim _______________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-752-9284 Mpact Systems Engineering kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research http://www.chromatic.com