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<P><FONT SIZE=-1>Dave Trenkel wrote:</FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><FONT SIZE=-1>At 11:38 AM 4/22/98, klaw@iglou.com wrote:</FONT><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT> <P><FONT SIZE=-1>>Im a little surprised no one mentions Oval on this list.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>>Their music definately incorporates looping & some bizarre manipulation.</FONT><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT> <P><FONT SIZE=-1>I got their "Dok" CD on Thrill Jockey at the same time I got the Tony</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>Conrad. I haven't given it more than a casual listen, but it seems pretty</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>interesting. I heard some earlier material that strictly used skipping CD</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>players as sound sources.</FONT><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT> <P><FONT SIZE=-1>Also, the new Tortoise disc "TNT" uses some fairly subtle looping.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE> right on..tortoise's "TnT" and the sea and cakes ep "two gentlemen" are bothe stuffed full of looped layers.. <BR>there's a wonderful sample of some guy talking about musical revolutions...round and round.... Another chicago based release I got turned onto recently is .o.rangs "fields and waves" . its relesed on hitit records, but the bands on echo.... however I could only get info thru hitit via the web so ya takes yer chances. <P>all this checago schtuff is so good its taking some of my friends away, they like it so much the've moved. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT> <P><FONT SIZE=-1>________________________________________________________</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/</FONT><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT> <P><FONT SIZE=-1>"...there will come a day when you won't have to use</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1> -Sun Ra</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=-1>________________________________________________________</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <FONT SIZE=-1> </FONT></HTML> </html>