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I think that the older DOD delays have better features than this one for looping. For example, being able to tune the captured loop. I rely on the Jam-Man tempo LED quite a bit in solo performance. Synching to MIDI is not possible in the DOD, and no tempo LED compounds the problems in a 12 second loop. Just my opinion. I think that this list could be a great resource for any company developing a looper or delay. It's too bad that DOD will probably drop the product due to "lack of interest in looping", when it really only needs more development. At 01:00 AM 4/27/98 -0400, you wrote: >Chuck Zwicky: >> This device has a LONG way to go before it could be very useful to >anyone >>here. > >This _sounds_ like an exaggeration. It sounds like the >DOD Dimension 12's _delay_ mode is quite similar to >the Jamman's _delay_ mode, which is pretty much the >only way I use the Jamman because of the limited resolution >of the feedback setting in its other modes and its poor >design for sustained overdubbing (in loop modes, when you >lay down the initial the first layer, you're booted out-- >it doesn't automatically switch to overdubbing; and if you're >overdubbing and switch loops, it drops out of overdubbing). > >The ability to set the delay time directly (which I know >the Jamman can't do directly, and I've never heard any >evidence that the Echoplex can do) seems like a useful >bonus. > >This is not to say that everyone on this list can live >without the "missing" features. And certainly you might >be paying for a lot of sampling features you would never >use. > >Sean > > >