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Leo, As far as I'm concerned, once you've mapped out your basic backbeat and layers of breakbeat and bass all that's left is the looping... and it is too much fun... A friend and I made some really cool slow-funk groove a couple days ago by basically following this method, except w/o a computer... I'd love to have access to software like Cubase and Soundforge but I'm too poor to care at the moment. We do our best impersonation by composing a song on the drum machine, sampling the bits and pieces we like, playing with a multitap delay (4 continuity I suppose) and then actively mixing all these different "loops" at mixdown. We've even been known to use the MidiSync capability on th Jam Man to insure that we don't go phase-crazy. Hope this gives you a window on what we do... I'm totally hip to yer ideas leo and would love to hear em. ciao baby Leonardo Cavallo wrote: > > At 17.30 08/05/98 +0800, you wrote: > >Has anybody tried a drummachine software program called "Fruit Loops"? >It's > >kinda like "Hammerhead". BTW, when is the new version of Hammerhead >coming > >out anyway? > > > >C H R I S > > > >MP3 traders mailing lists at http://come.to/mp3-traders > >Reggae/Dancehall/Dub/Ska mailing list at http://come.to/reggae-list > >Erykah Badu mailing list http://come.to/badu > > > > > > Talking about drum loops and drum&bass, I've found that's possible to > recreate that rhythmic things without using a sampler. You can do all the > breakbeats editing and arranging on an audio seq. with really good >results. > I'm using Cubase VST to build my drum loops and editing my Stick parts >and > looping. > The key for that Roni Size sound is not in sampling the single piece of >the > drum kit (as you normally do writing midi drum patterns) but using >parts of > a whole sampled groove. You cut the bar in quarters or eights and then > reorder the fragments in a new way. Try this method. > > I find the mix of live looping and jungle really interesting. Who's with >me? > I'd like to mention the music samples of Andre La Fosse on his web page >as a > really good example to listen if you like this kind of music. > > ciao > leo