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A slight correction about JamMan and regeneration or fade... The JamMan in Loop mode only has three fade values. Long, medium and short. These are definitely crude, but still get the job done when you've anticipated their limitations. The JamMan in Delay mode has 16 regen levels. If you're looking for smoother decay of loops these levels, while there are only 16, are much smoother sounding. MIDI control of these values with PGM Chg's give foot control over the decay. Adding a volume pedal at the input of the Jammer allows you to kill input to the unit and still play over the loop. (If you're using it on an aux send.) -Miko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Fw: boomerang idea Author: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> at INTERNET Date: 6/5/98 10:59 AM Yeah! this is the idea of using feedback as a way to evolve loops, that we were discussing a couple of weeks ago. (and many times before, actually.) The limitation with the boomerang and jamman on this is that you can't set the feedback anywhere you want. You're stuck with the one setting of the boomerang or three (?) on the jamman. Traditional delays always have a knob that lets you set feedback to any level, dynamically. It's a very creative tool for looping. I'm always a bit suprised that many of the newer phrase sampler things don't have it at all. (having that feature was one of the most important things to Matthias when he first designed the echoplex, because he considers it essential for loop based music. He had developed his looping music originally using delays like tc2290 and pcm-42, where this feedback and hold feature was available.) kim