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Yes, With Ver 5.00, you can still do the multiply (increase # copies of first loop), overdub, multiply (decrease # copies of the first loop, now with overdub on top), and then undo through the copies to hear the different overdubs. ---COLLINSCLAN <collinsclan@sprintmail.com> wrote: > > The thing I'm wondering about the new plex, is can it still do the changes > that Andre was writing about a little while ago? > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bret <echoplex@yahoo.com> > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> > Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 6:20 PM > Subject: Re: Is the new EDP more than just a software update? > > > >Eric, > > > >Kim would be the expert with this topic, but I have some experience > >with older/newer EDP so here is my $.02. > > > >$500 USD for a full memory EDP with footpedal sounds very good to me. > > > >I own an older (96) and a newer EDP (98). I collected some > >information from Oberheim, and from Kim regarding production changes > >that have occurred on Echoplex. As far as I can tell, you can upgrade > >an Older EDP to be functionally equivalent to the New EDP. Several > >changes are documented on the Loopers Delight Web site, I believe > >under EDP FAQ. Here are some more notes I got from Kim (the comments > >are his): > >------------- > >ECO's > >> > >>1. R21 - 330k 5% 1/4w CF. > >>2. R20 - 330k 5% 1/4w CF. > > This is in the limiter circuit. I wouldn't bother with this, > >it won't make much difference. > >>3. R7 - 75k 5% 1/4w CF. > > changes clipping indication on input LED, good idea to change, > >but not very important > >>4. R62 - 10k 5% 1/4w CF. > > this is correct. allows BrotherSync to work with many more > >units than before. > >>5. R75 - 820 ohm 5% 1/4w CF. > > correct, optimizes a delay time > >>5. C25 - R 100 ohm 5% 1/4w CF. > >>6 C26 - R 100 ohm 5% 1/4w CF. > > This affects the limiter circuit which never worked very well. > > I would leave it alone. If you really want the digital input limiter > >working better, I have a better fix for it. It's harder to do and > >requires tacking a resistor on the bottom. I think it's easier to just > >set the input gain so that you don't clip.... > >>7. R13 - R14 - 47.5k 10% 1/4w MF > > This widens the range of the trimpot adjustment. Don't do this > >one, since you would then have to readjust the trim pot. If you really > >want to do that, I could explain it to you. > >>8. Both Pals upgrade with new equations > > fixes timing problem that sometimes caused weird display and > >other problems on a small number of units. > >>9. Cut Pin 5 of U12 ADC0804CN > > important, fixes heat problem > >--------------- > >In checking my 96 EDP I found all the resistor upgrades were present, > >except R75, which I changed. I had gotten PALS from Oberheim (during > >my warranty period), which I changed. I bought the Ver 5.00 Eproms, > >and installed them. > > > >You can open the EDP and visually inspect the resistor locations for > >the values, and for the cut leg on the ADC. > > > >I would not recommend changing resistors in the EDP yourself, unless > >you feel completely competent changing through hole resistors on a > >PCBA, and know how to protect static sensitive devices. You might > >find a GOOD technician, or ask Oberheim if they would make the needed > >changes (for $ of course). > > > >As is apparent from Kim's comments, some changes are more _important_ > >to performance than others. Some may be irrelevant to you (like > >brother sync). The Firmware upgrade (EPROMS) to Ver 5.00 is a high > >priority, in my opinion. > > > >bret > > > >---eric potter <babycat@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> I'm trolling for an EDP. One option is a used one with full memory > >and > >> foot controller for $500. Figure in $45 for new software, not a bad > >> deal, right? > >> > >> But I'm wondering if there is more to the latest EDP bought new than > >> just the software update (which, don't get me wrong, is a fantastic > >> improvement) Were there changes to the hardware or controls, etc. > >> Am I missing out by not buying the new box? > >> > >> thanks all, > >> -eric > >> > >> ______________________________________________________ > >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >> > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >DO YOU YAHOO!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com