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>>> If you don't mind my asking, what did you pay and where did you get the ram? <<< Bearing in mind you only own the value, you will only be able to up the RAM to 24.5mb (AWE64 Gold has 4mb on the card already as opposed to 512k). Look on the Creative Labs European Web Site (www.creaf.com) and you'll see that it costs £125.00. Not exactly cheap compared to 72 pin simms, but there you go. >>> BTW, how have you been mapping the samples to your midi keyboard? <<< Well, that's why I bought the RAM. I don't know whether it comes bundled with the value pack or not, but I got Vienna 2.1 with my Gold card. Vienna 2.1 is a soundfont editor which, (funnily enough) allows you to build sound font banks. It allows you to map several samples (depending on memory on the card) to the keyboard and use them on the same instrument. You can also play around with envelopes and LFOs in Vienna, and sometimes you can use these facilities to make a good sample sound fantastic! Sampling at 16bit Stereo 44.1khz you can get approx. 2.4 minutes worth of samples onto the soundcards' RAM with a 24mb setup, which I find to be quite sufficient. The real bonus is that you can have 32 or 64 samples (processor dependent) playing at the time. If you're running a pretty average spec PC like myself, that's definitely more than the number of audio tracks available to you in a sequencer. I can't believe you can't buy bigger than an 8mb AWE64 memory upgrade in Oz! If you really can't get one and you want one, mail me off-list and we'll see what we can arrange. Regards, Steve Lauder steve.lauder@elspa.com