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In a message dated 7/18/98 4:22:39 PM, Chris wrote: >It's called MSP ("max signal processing") and is an extension to the >programming language MAX tha runs on Power PC macs. COOOOL!.....but MAX has always looked cool to me until I start checking deeper. I subscribed to the MAX list for about a year, and to a completely math-free and programming-lingo-limited (even if highly motivated!) slug like myself, this was like living in a foreign country without a dictionary. It reminded me that what I want to do is plug and PLAY, not boot and DEBUG! So, can you get where you've described without a degree in math, computers, or signal processing?? I even enjoy reading manuals, so that's not a problem...it's not speaking the academic language that the program and manual are written in or assume fluency in that can slow me down so much that I feel I'm wasting my time... SuperCollider for the Power Mac is another case in point. If you've got a PowerMac, download the demo without delay...totally real time synthesis and audio processing; cool sounds start pouring outta your Mac with a button press, and the graphic controllers are pretty intuitive...but the talk on the mailing list for the real program is total lab-coat; has kept me from tossing $250 on it, despite how powerful it seems to be... dpc