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One other point/question. Can you use the seamless patch change on the zoom to change from a 4 second delay on hold to a three second delay (with say 99% feedback) so that you have two loops of different length evolving against each other? That was one idea I had after I returned the Zoom. PJBMHB@aol.com wrote: > > the zoom 508 has a tap feature as well and 4 seconds of sampling and a >treble > roll-off to make it sound more analog or true to life. i love this >thing!! =-) > PJ