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David, I would like to know if you happen to know a fellow named Jeff Stayton? He does a feedbacked guitar piece in his "Fear of Open Spaces" cassette. The sound is amazing, and i would like to know if perhaps he got that off of you. I would also like to know if i could get a schematic of what you are speaking of? For I am also a guitar manipulator who is studying at the time the possibilities of prepared guitar. I would appreciate any info you can get my way. By the way, thanks for being on this list of proud Loopers. Jeff Collins collinsclan@sprintmail.com -----Original Message----- From: David Myers <dmgraph@bway.net> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 5:04 PM Subject: The Feedback Machine story >Hey there, loopers. Got a bit long-winded in an email reply concerning my >noisemaking, and thought it might be of interest to some of you.... > >>Hi! >> Have you been recording any works recently using the various feedback >>machines? I am interested in exploring such >>"guided chaos" music...have you published any device construction >>tips/theories? > > >Hello John. Thanks for the interest; I'm curious to know how you found >me. >After a hiatus of about five years, I have indeed begun to record some new >Feedback Music. Very far from having new material ready for release, >though I am about done with new sound material to send to Asmus Tietchens >for his use in a third collaborative project. > >There was an article I wrote for Chris Cutler's "Quarterly" many years >ago, >later reprinted in Experimental Musical Instruments. The article is still >available in ReR Quarterly Vol. 2 No.3, from ReR Recommended, 79 Beulah >Road, Thornton Heath, Surrey, CR7 8JG, UK. An LP and book is 11.00 pounds >sterling. Their newest catalog is an absolute must if you have any >interest in this sort of music. Unfortunately I myself do not have a copy >of the article (just like me--man, do I burn them bridges sometimes!). > >Anyway, the essence of the "Feedback Machines" is simple enough. Back >when, I used four delay units (mostly Digitech 7.6 sec "Time Machines") >which were sent to four mixer channels. Each channel had four effects >send >buses, each of which fed one delay input; my mixer was custom built, but >it >needn't be. I call it a "Feedback Matrix": > > 0-----0-----0-----X----> send 4 to DDL 4 input > I I I I > I I I I > 0-----0-----X-----0----> send 3 to DDL 3 input > I I I I > I I I I > 0-----X-----0-----0----> send 2 to DDL 2 input > I I I I > I I I I > X-----0-----0-----0----> send 1 to DDL 1 input > I I I I > DDL1 DDL2 DDL3 DDL4 > >The "0"s are effect send knobs; the "X"s are too, but they show knobs that >control a DDL's feeding back into itself. Get it? You want DDLs or other >effects units which have a lot of manual control--i.e., knobs. Lexicon >LXPs are cool if you have one or more MRCs to get fader control of the >parameters. Having at least one delay capable of 4-plus seconds and some >sort of "hold" function is really valuable, to trap the feedback as either >static or evolving loops. > >So, the whole setup is "played" as an instrument. The trick is mostly in >inventing and learning your own techniques; have the effects units and >mixer as close to each other as possible, and start twisting knobs! At >the >moment, I've built a 6X6 matrix and use 2 Lexicon Vortexes (great for this >application!), a Reflex, the new MPX-100, and a few pedal effects. More >knobs would be better, but with the 6X6 grid and "variation" knobs on the >units, there's a real wealth of territory to explore. I suggest picking >up >two or three old DDLs like Deltalab Effectrons or the Digitechs; pretty >cheap nowadays. The biggest hangup may be getting a mixer with more than >two effects sends, though you can do pretty much with even two. I've >always built my simple mixers based on Craig Anderton's ancient book >"Electronic Projects For Musicians". But a commercial mixer has its >advantages, like EQ on each channel. You'll find EQ in the loops is >really >useful; I use a PAIA (Anderton)-designed parametric. Great unit! Anyway, >if you're in the green, a used Mackie 1604 would be cool, at about $500; >four sends (kind of six, actually) fill the bill nicely. > >Hope this helps. Check out the article if you can. Let me know what >develops? Computer stuff is cool, but I swear by this kind of approach >because it really "lives", and there's nothing like direct and immediate >control of yer sounds.... > >Regards, DM > > >