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the original QuadraVerb kicks for these things- try the ring modulator and the resonator patches. Also- Run yr gtr thru a pitch shifter (ie Boss PS?) and set one shift up a half step, the other down a half step. Boss Bass Syntesizer pedal. I don't own one, but these badboys are demented. Pitch shift your signal down with one pedal, back up with another, and distort the hell out of it. Do any of the above, flip the tape/reverse the sample, run back thru the same effects. Power drills, computer printers, vibrators, windup toys, soldering irons all put out lots of strange noises your pickups will, uh, pick up. Run some of that stuff through the above effects- but beware; I'm not sure that's legal in some counties. tdb