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In a message dated 8/17/98 10:00:08 AM Central Daylight Time, steve.lauder@elspa.com writes: << I've used delays, distortions, compressors, vocoders etc, but at the end of the day you can still recognise the sound as that of a guitar. I'm after something really whacky, and I was after some hints. Can anyone offer suggestions? >> Something I've found really interesting.... try running a sample of a guitar loop through a filtering system... I use CoolEdit, so I run stuff through the "ringing 'A's" filter and also through the "de-noise" filter -what comes out seldom sounds like what went in, but it can get really wack.... enjoy. - Bill Crossedout@aol.com