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>The BOSS GT-5 has a ring modulator on it too, and an "intelligent mode" >that shifts the final sound back to the pitch you played. It's a floor >multi-effects unit if you didn't know, one of the higher-end ones. It's >very very good for making weird digital noises. It has just about every >effect in there, and you can put them in any order. And at the extremes >of the parameter ranges, it produces some very wacky sounds. It also has >a "virtual" expression pedal which is basically an LFO modulator. >Andy The Boss GX-700 has the same RMod from the sound of it. It can also place fx in any order and has a programmable and moveable fx loop. This allows me to place a pile of fuzzes and my analog filter in the loop and place them before or after other things like delay, pitch, rmod, flange, phase, etc. COSM based amp and speaker simulation as well as a representative pile of all the Boss fuzzes. You can attach up to 4 cc's for realtime control of all parameters. Pretty cheap as well. The 700 can be had from ~300.00 used on up. The GT5 is a little pricier, but it allows (i believe) up to 8 cc attachments for better realtime control and has one built in expression pedal... -miko