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Take me of this frigin''' list. I have replied unsubscribe about four godamn times and it never happens. Take me offffffff!! NOWWWWW!!!!!!! Kim Flint wrote: > At 01:37 AM 8/26/98 -0500, mark sottilaro wrote: > >As a creator of original music I find nothing wrong with this at all. > > > > I used that argument in 1986, and I have not granted you permission to >use > it. You will be hearing from my crack legal team shortly! > > But really, I think you would have a difficult time arguing that the > zillions of recordings being made in the numerous collage-based genres, > using samples, are all unoriginal. Negativland makes a very good point >about > the Fair Use principles of copyright law, and the rights granted therein. > Fair Use has always been a part of the law, but there are not many >precedent > cases available to define it very well. So the situation is a bit vague, > there aren't any solid legal guidelines to follow, and now advances in > digital media are pushing the issue to a head. I would imagine that with >big > record companies and the RIAA aggressively threatening people with >lawsuits > to make them give up their fair use rights, it won't be long before we >see > more of this being tried in the courts. > > Anyway, Negativland convinced me of all this several years ago. They have > been making the fair use case quite eloquently for many, many years, and >I'd > suggest checking out what they have to say before making reactionary > statements. Most people don't have a very good grasp on what copyright >law > is all about, even when they think they do (like confusing copyright with > property rights), and even fewer know what Fair Use is. It's a worthwhile > thing to learn, rather than assume.... > > Negativland is also a really cool experimental-noise-found sound music > group, not to mention master media artists. Nobody writes press releases >as > well as they do! they've turned this whole Fair Use crusade into a media >art > project in and of itself, which is quite fun to follow. Their book "Fair > Use: the Story of the Letter U and the Numeral 2" is geat, chronicling >their > experiences getting almost sued off the planet by U2, Casey Casem, and > Island Records, because of a sample on a record. (you might never get to > hear the original version, but the song is extremely funny....) Of course > that is the same U2 that samples local news broadcasts and tv shows >during > their stadium concerts, and manipulates them on their giant video screen, > without seeking permission from the local tv stations. Apparently their > lawyers lack the gene for Irony. > > Negativland is here, they can speak for themselves just fine: > http://www.negativland.com/ > > kim > _________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint, MTS kflint@chromatic.com > Chromatic Research 408-752-9284 > http://www.chromatic.com