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At 12.35 09/09/98 +0100, you wrote: >Has anyone on this list heard of Hallucinogen (the band, not the drug)? I had their first album a while back, and recently heard The Lone Derranger, their latest album. > >They do some fantastically intricate stuff, and I was wondering how much >of it would have been loop/FX based, and how much of it would have been MIDI based? > >Another thing; I have cubase and a MIDI keyboard, and every time I try to do some drum work, no matter how hard I try, it always sounds basic and repetitive (the best way I can describe it is an empty beat). Does anyone have tips on how to write good lively beats (especially jungle) with just Cubase and a MIDI keyboard? Hi Steve making a living programming beats (and writing as journalist, too) I have a little knowledge about this topic. You wrote: >how to write good lively beats (especially jungle) with just Cubase and a MIDI keyboard? Do you mean to use Cubase only as a sequencer for the keyb internal sounds? Well, I think it depends on the sounds available on th keyboard... Jungle is not only about bpm speed but sounds too. It's not casual that d&b relies heavily on breakbeats (whole sampled drum loops or part of them) and not only on single drum sounds. I think the best approach is to combine the 2 methods, for that "lively beats" you're looking for. Try to work directly with audio material (.wav with PC, .aiff with Mac) on Cubase VST or using a sampler with an old Cubase, MIDI only, version. To program jungle beats with just some GM MIDI sounds and Cubase (not VST, no audio capability) I think it's pretty hard. let me know ciao leo