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In a message dated 9/19/98 4:54:08 AM, you wrote: << I use a Ricoh CD-RW (not as cool as it used to be when CD-R blanks cost more) on a Mac with Adaptec's Toast (fine for everything except audio) and Jam (good for audio). I've tried Digidesign's program, but it refuses to work with my drive, saying that I need new firmware. Toast and Jam don't seem to mind (nor did the CD manufacturer). Jam is pretty cool, you have a fair amount of control over spacing and crossfades between tracks, and you can audition everything before burning a disc. W Doug -- Doug Wyatt doug@sonosphere.com Sonosphere (electric/improv music) http://www.sonosphere.com/ You can Download firmware and a firmware loader from http://www.ricoh.co.jp/cd-r/cgi/e-/version.html This is firmware for the Ricoh CDR and CDRW. The latest version is 2.4 This is very easy to do on a MAC. I dont know about the PC. Kelly