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For those of you that are interested, Symbolic Sound showed some really fast hardware for Kyma at AES, details are at: http://www.SymbolicSound.com/press-AES98.html The short of it is: new price: $3300 base system: 4 Motorola 56309 chips at 80Mhz. (3 chips for DSP, one for housekeeping, each 56309 is 2.5X faster than a 66Mhz 56002) 96MB sample ram (24MB per DSP, that's about 3 minutes loop time at 44.1Khz) 4 channels analog/digital i/o standard 4 more channels optional. A/D, D/A converters 24-bit at up to 96Khz Loads of sync input (SMPTE, LTC, Word Clock, etc.) New expansion cards have 2 chips/48MB each Up to 12 cards can be added ($595 each). I'm pretty sure the 563XX series is what Digidesign is using in their new ProTools Mix DSP Farms. Jim