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To all those who are wanting to record sounds that the usual mics won't be able to pick up, i have been thinking about contact microphones since i discovered John Cage. They are an amazing way to get sounds never heard before out of anything...even rocks. If you too are interested in making yourself a couple of contact mics, you can visit... http://www.harmonycentral.com/Guitar/piezo-pickups.txt There are a ton of posts on this subject that can help you out tremendously. Hope this can help a few of you fellow loopers. Sincerely, Jeff Collins http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1429/STRANGETONES.html