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Greetings Kim and all others, Well, it's happened. I finally found some KILLER LOOPS again. Those who have been on this list long enough might remember that quite some time ago I mentioned seeing some boxes with the aforementioned name on them in an optician's shop. Since the only time I was near there was about 02:30, I could never find out what they were. By the time I managed to get there in the day, they didn't have any. At last the mystery has been solved! Another store has them on sale (an auto-parts, etc. store of all places), so I bought a pair. It turns out they are, as I'd surmised originally, sunglasses. Made in Italy, and distributed here by Ray-Ban, the suggested price is $150 Cdn., but they are being sold for $40!! Most of them are that oval, bug-eye style that seems to be all the rage, in all sorts of colours, but I managed to find some more reasonable black square ones (they fit in a pocket easier). I have had the box scanned here at work, and will send it on, Kim, if you have access to a Mac ('cuz that's what it was scanned on to). Perhaps there could be a space for "sightings" as on the Elephant Talk site. Best wishes to all (and beware of those KILLER LOOPS!!!!) Jim Bailey